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Joe Camel with Feathers
How the NRA with Gun and Tobacco Industry Dollars Uses its Eddie Eagle Program to Market Guns to Kids
ABC News' 20/20 Reveals the Truth About Eddie Eagle
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DIANE SAWYER: (Voiceover) Dr. Marjorie Hardy, assistant professor of psychology at Muhlenberg College in Allentown, Pennsylvania, who has conducted a number of clinical studies with children and guns.
Dr. HARDY: It does not work to tell kids what to do.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) With her advice, we decided to set up an experiment of our own. We went to this day-care center in Allentown and rigged a playroom with three hidden cameras. We filled the play area with all kinds of toys and with something else, three handguns, a .38, a .22, a .357 Magnum, all of them real but unloaded and disabled. We placed them at varying times on a table, in a small purse and in a box of toys. Dr. Hardy said young kids don't make a distinction between a gun they'd find in an adult closet or shelf and one they'd find in a toy box.
Next, with their parents' permission, we recruited 40 children, ages three to 10. We took half of them and assembled them four days before our experiment for a powerful lecture about the dangers of guns.
Lieutenant JOE HANNA (Allentown Police Department): Are real guns toys?
Unidentified Child #5: No.
Lt. HANNA: No.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) The lecture was given by Lieutenant Joe Hanna of the Allentown police.
Lt. HANNA: And you can never play with guns,
SAWYER: (Voiceover) Lieutenant Hanna had help from someone else.
Lt. HANNA: Now I'm going to show you a very short videotape.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) His name is Eddie Eagle, a cartoon character, star of a seven-minute video created by the National Rifle Association. And what does Eddie Eagle tell kids to do when they see a gun?
(Excerpt from NRA video)
SAWYER: (Voiceover) The NRA has sent Eddie Eagle to schools around the country, and claim that his warnings do make a difference, a way to have your gun and safety, too.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) But what about the children who had been present for that lecture, the kids who were told never to touch a gun?
Unidentified Boy #7: (Points gun at his friend and make shooting noise)
Unidentified Boy #8: Don't shoot me.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) Well, here's one of them, a three-year-old...
Boy #7: (Points gun at his friend and makes shooting noise)
SAWYER: ... ignoring his playmate's pleas for mercy.
Boy #8: No, don't shoot me anymore.
Boy #7: (Again points gun at his friend and makes shooting noise)P> Unidentified Mother #5: He was somewhat being cute, but I was stunned inside and scared.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) This mother said they have no guns, not even toy ones at home.
Mother #5: He was so natural with it. It looked like he played with it every single day. And it was scary when he played dead. I became numb.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) We were amazed at how many children who had watched that Eddie Eagle video talked the talk. Listen carefully to these boys.
Unidentified Boy #9: Do you know what to do when you see a real gun?
Unidentified Boy #10: No-
Boy #9: Stop, don't touch, leave the area and tell an adult.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) But moments later, their caution was blown away in a hail of pretend bullets.
Boy #9: (Points gun at his friend and makes shooting noise)
Boy #10: Bam, I shot you.
Boy #9: (Pretending to shoot gun) Poo!
Unidentified Mother #6: It makes me nauseous.
ADAM (Three Years Old): Look, I found a gun.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) And meet three-year-old Adam, another child who remembered what he'd been told.
ADAM: But we can't--hey, don't touch it. Don't touch it! Don't! Don't touch it!
SAWYER: (Voiceover) When Adam saw the gun, he sounded the alarm, but his playmate was undeterred, even though he'd been at our warning lecture, too.
BRAXTON: Watch out. Ah.
SAWYER: And a few minutes later, Adam had apparently decided if you can't beat them...
ADAM: I can hold it.
BRAXTON: Another one.
ADAM: Yeah.
BRAXTON: Another one.
ADAM: (Picks up gun and makes shooting noise)
Unidentified Boy #12: I found the bullets to it. These are the bullets.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) These boys knew immediately just what they'd found.
Unidentified Boy #13: When you put them in the gun, you shoot and they fly out the side.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) And this boy, six years old, knew the difference between the dummy bullets and the spent shells.
Boy #10: See, there's nothing in them.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) But in 10 hours of watching these kids, perhaps the most amazing thing we saw was this--it was our old friend Adam again. He and his playmate spotted the bullets without any trouble. And now, watch what these two do next. They immediately go to work, trying to load the guns.
BRAXTON: I don't put the ... (unintelligible) in.
SAWYER: (Voiceover) And again, they're just three years old.
Braxton's Mother: Oh, my God.
Adam's Mother: Ohh!
Braxton's Mother: Oh, my gosh.
BRAXTON: ... (Unintelligible).
Woman #2: Oh, my goodness, what do you have?
BRAXTON: Guns!
SAWYER: (Voiceover) They keep trying, even as the day-care owner comes to get them.
BRAXTON: I didn't fit this. I didn't fit this.
Woman #2: And what did y--wbat did you do when you saw the guns?
BRAXTON: I didn't fit this.
Woman #2: Oh, why don't you put that back where you found it, Braxton? We're gonna go with our mommies now. OK.
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